Thursday, April 15, 2010

Who are we to limit God?

In church last Sunday it was fast and testimony meeting. One member of the ward stood up and gave a sincere testimony. I enjoyed it. Towards the end he began talking about how the General Authorities/Quorum of the 12 are privileged to see the face of God but that such things were not possible for anyone else.

I'm not sure his reasoning for this claim but he spoke as if everyone he spoke with would agree and share that assumption.

I have a very different view.  I can find no scriptural support for the assumption this particular speaker presented.  By contrast I can cite easily, multiple scriptures that say the opposite.  As latter day saints I think it is our privilege to come to the Lord, learn of Him, and come to know God. I believe only the President of the church is called to declare new doctrine and receive revelation for the church. The Lord has organized the institution that way. The President speaks for God. But I believe all are invited to speak with God.  Who can argue that?

These scriptures, in modern revelation help me draw such conclusions.

D&C 93: 1. Verily, thus saith the Lord: It shall come to pass that every soul who forsaketh his sins and cometh unto me, and calleth on my name, and obeyeth my voice, and keepeth my commandments, shall see my face and know that I am;

D&C 88: 3. Wherefore, I now send upon you another Comforter, even upon you my friends, that it may abide in your hearts, even the Holy Spirit of promise; which other Comforter is the same that I promised unto my disciples, as is recorded in the testimony of John.

And pretty much all of third Nephi starting in chapter 11 when Christ personally ministers to many people with no particular religious calling.  To agree with this speakers belief that only General Authorities can see or experience God directly, also requires that you ignore Christ's documented ministry in the scriptures.  He ministered to, and asks "all" to come unto Him.

None of those scriptures to me suggest we must rely on or look to other peoples experiences with God to give us confidence and assurance. In fact to me they suggest we should enjoy our own, supporting those called to lead the church by the simple things God asks of us.  To limit God to only speaking with them, and then looking to them as our intermediary is idolatry.


  1. "another comforter"-I love it.
    We are not meant to live alone-a "privilege" of a prophet can be a "privlige" to anyone. Are we not ALL sons and daughters of God? Created in His image...equal?

    Love your thoughts Taylor

  2. Amen Kels!!

    Moses in the old testament upon learning that there were people in the camp prophesying had Joshua come to him: "And Joshua said, My lord Moses, forbid them. And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? Would God that all the Lord’s people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them!"
    (Numbers 11:26-29)

    The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. (Rev 19:20)

    Not just leaders should have a testimony of Jesus. However the president of the church is the one to direct the church, declare doctrine and preside etc. But we are supposed to recieve revelation for our own lives, Scriptures promise God would "make his abode with us".

    Who wouldn't want that?